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  • Re: need some help with an addiction

    First, I'd stop referring to this as an addiction. How long has this been going on? What all have you tried to not do this? Does it occur other times when you are not at work? What is your spiritual life like?
    Posted to Men's Forum (Forum) by boatmen on October 24, 2009
  • Re: A Week in the Life

    PM sent Chaz I'll say something to my son about Foursquare. We're getting most of the nuts off 4 trees. We have 10 total. The wood is quite pricey. We sold several a few years back and I was just amazed at what the guy offered us for them. Actually we still have a few stacks of 'tops' laying around waiting for the wood stove.
    Posted to Men's Forum (Forum) by boatmen on October 22, 2009
  • A Week in the Life

    Hey Guys! It's been a few weeks since I've been around so I've lost track with some of you and what's going on with your lives. So I thought why not try starting a thread where we can post little updates on our lives. I saw Chaz is back! That's really cool. Wish I had DIC's email addy, I'm taking a small group of ladies down to southern WV ...
    Posted to Men's Forum (Forum) by boatmen on October 20, 2009
  • Re: Gentlemen, Gender....and...

    Personally I tend to think a lot of women want to marry a woman who looks like a man on the outside and a lot of men want to marry a man who looks like a woman.... and neither really works out well.
    Posted to Men's Forum (Forum) by boatmen on September 8, 2009
  • Re: What do you think???

    If we give God 100% of our lives... what's left over?
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on September 3, 2009
  • Re: So what are you doing to get ready for Fall?

    We have a big ole fat wood stove downstairs that we've used over the years.&nbsp; Not so much lately cause my health makes it tougher to get up and down the stairs.&nbsp; We always keep a couple cords of wood on hand tho just in case the electricty goes out.&nbsp; Our main heat is a electric forced air furnace and heat pump.&nbsp; Unless it gets ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on September 3, 2009
  • Re: So what are you doing to get ready for Fall?

    I just bought 5 gallons of paint and am proceeding to clean out the garage so I can paint all the walls and ceiling.&nbsp; And I'd like to get as many of the outside door frames painted as I can with that much paint.&nbsp; I'd also like to fix the overhead garage door openers and install 4-5 more florescent lights on the ceiling.&nbsp; I'm hoping ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on September 2, 2009
  • Banning Stinks

    I'm not posting much simply because if I say what I really think... will I get banned because it's not popular?
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on September 2, 2009
  • Re: Pre marital sex

    Hi another name, &nbsp; I thought I had responded to your original post, but alas there's nothing here so for whatever reason my first reply never got posted. &nbsp; The thing that jumped out at me is the pastors response of asking about women who gave it away so freely.&nbsp; Personally I would never ever allow anyone to speak about my wife is
    Posted to Men's Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 27, 2009
  • Re: I must of missed something???

    Calvin&amp;Hobbs(aka HPK)&nbsp;made a poorly worded statement that was pretty offensive on the face of it.&nbsp; Chaz attempted to explain, but got caught up in it a little to much I'm afraid.&nbsp; Someone got terribly offended and notified the moderators who I believe banned Chaz and HPK.&nbsp; DIC didn't really have much to say about the whole ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 20, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: Thanks again 1hart. The rest of you - good imaginations.&nbsp; Have shame. &nbsp; Christ took away all my shame.&nbsp; I don't think I'm gonna allow some nutless Pharisee try and force me to carry that stuff around again.&nbsp; Thanks, but no thanks.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 20, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    dallasapple: Boat Man... &nbsp; I also dispute that he has been rejected.It quite frankly feels like its the other way around. Love Dallas &nbsp; Yeah, my first thought was to tell him to grow a set for the love of Pete! &nbsp; But I'm thinking that if he considers this rejection then he's probably rejected a LOT in life.&nbsp; ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 20, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: There is&nbsp;Jesus example of dealing with the Pharisees.&nbsp; However within a family, this tends to cause more division, which is theologically okay, but not necessarily psychologically positive, nor healthy for the family. &nbsp; So you are more interested in family than Christ.&nbsp; Family first and then Jesus takes a back seat ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 20, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude, &nbsp; Welcome to the FamilyLife message board.&nbsp; I hope you will hang around, provide us a little introduction about yourself and become part of our lil internet family. &nbsp; Just on the odd chance that you aren't aware, we often have people who post questions such as yours, but only give us one side of the story.&nbsp;&nbsp;So ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 13, 2009
  • Re: Rental/Housing....Landlord problems - need some advice/help!

    And the local(city/county)&nbsp;health inspector.&nbsp; They can actually condem the house as unliveable(which no landlord wants) and will force the landlord to act within a certain amount of time.&nbsp; The damage to your stuff can be resolved in small claims court, but it's most likely gonna make the landlord testy to deal with in the future.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 10, 2009
  • Re: 1%

    I've been banned.I can be reached at charlesirish@hotmail.com or under the screen name chaz345 at www.christianforums.com. &nbsp; WHOA?????????
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 6, 2009
  • Re: "Seeing God and Jesus"

    I know quite a few that are like that.&nbsp; Maybe not to the extent of murdering, but the principle is the same.&nbsp; And I know many many who when the idea of works is brought into most any subject it's immediately attacked as salvation by works thinking.&nbsp; Universalism is gaining ground.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 6, 2009
  • Re: Lack of interest in sex

    kimberfan:I need help. My wife and I seem to have the opposite problem that most couples deal with. Itโ€™s me that has a lack of interest in sex. Itโ€™s causing real problems in our marriage. My wife thinks itโ€™s a lack of attraction, but itโ€™s not. She is beautiful, seriously hot. I want to have sex, I just canโ€™t seem to bring myself to ask for it. She
    Posted to Men's Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 6, 2009
  • Re: 1%

    Holten: &nbsp; I, in fact, do not prefer them.&nbsp; They ride up something awful. &nbsp; rofl &nbsp; okay so anything the 'rides up' is funny to me.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 5, 2009
  • Re: 1%

    chaz345: dallasapple:The coldness and insensitivity you have displayed right here in the face of two women who were raped by thier husbands is something maybe you should think about.I know this will not be well received but it is a&nbsp; point that needs to be considered. What does the fact that a large percentage of conversations on a variety of ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 5, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    Hot Ice: One thing that I have seen about this thread is that it's forcing each of us to come to terms with what our final and total authority is. Is it God, or not? And if it is God, is our final stop of authority for hearing from God going to be the Bible, or something else? &nbsp; &nbsp; For me it'll be someone else rather than the ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 5, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs:Boatmen, what ways does your pastor demonstrate his love for you? &nbsp; Time Physical touch Honesty
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    PearsandGrapes: In reading some threads about God's divinely appointed overseers within the church body, I am left wondering what others think the role of a Pastor or Elder Board is, and how far it should reach into our lives. &nbsp; My thinking is that it should be to the exact same extent to which they have demonstrated their love for ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: Boatmen, the most compassionate and understanding way a potential divorce can be addressed .... is within the church environment and under the authority of those men the Lord has appointed as overseers.&nbsp; It's when we try to apply the principles of the world that we get in trouble ... and this is why the divorce rate in the ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    Hot Ice: Boatmen, Since I had so much trouble following much of your last post to me, I'll respond to the little I did seem to understand: 1.&nbsp; You see me as being in a group of people on this thread that is proclaiming rules through my words, dictating what others should do. My response?&nbsp; I'll ask God if that's true of me, believing
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    chaz345: CalvinHobbs:Boatmen, we are so far apart theologically that I'm not sure I can carry on a conversation with you that would be productive.&nbsp; You have certain beliefs that are outside of basic, foundational Bible exegesis.&nbsp; I simply will not deal with this issue with the supposition that one can lose their salvation by failing in ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on August 1, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: The Holy Spirit will never lead us in a way that is contrary to Scripture.&nbsp; SOME spirit(s) might, but never the Holy Spirit.&nbsp; If it is of the Spirit, it is of the Word. &nbsp; Excellent!&nbsp; Now show me in scripture where it says we are to take a knife and slice our children open and burn them over a nice hot ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    divorce in church: So, we can lose our salvation? Its works dependent? Im just trying to be clear. We can give our salvation away.&nbsp; Salvation is a process of faith AND works.&nbsp; Always has been. &nbsp; &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: Boatmen, I really don't know what else to say to you.&nbsp; You say you want to follow the Spirit and I believe you.&nbsp; Yet, you don't want to confirm what the Spirit might be telling you in the Word.&nbsp; Brother, you can't have one without the other.&nbsp; The Holy Spirit is the 3rd Person of the Trinity.&nbsp; The three in ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    divorce in church:So then, are we saying there is a risk that staying married will see them lose their salvation? Because what other risk IS there to the eternal soul? &nbsp; The risk is that losing hope will place a great risk on them losing their salvation.&nbsp; Continuing in a position that one considers hopeless will only foster more ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    BcauseHeLives: boatmen: BcauseHeLives: boatmen - a quick question &amp; I hope you are not offended by it...I think I know the answer but just want to clarify.&nbsp; Would you ever try to pursuade a person who is committed to staying in a difficult marriage to divorce?&nbsp; &nbsp; NEVER!&nbsp; God forbid that I would do such a ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: Boatmen, you still come across as wanting to supercede Scripture with emotion and ''setting free the fainthearted''.&nbsp;&nbsp;I am&nbsp;willing to allow the Spirit to supercede man's interpretation of scripture. &nbsp;It is NOT heartless or controlling to want to see the ways of God followed.&nbsp;It is when the ways of God are ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: 3rd Party Coersion

    divorce in church: boatmen: Free will is a wonderful thing.&nbsp; Libertarians - do what you will until it interferes with another persons free will and you can prove it in a court of law. Legalism - forcing others to do what you are convicted of doing by use of some false moral authority. &nbsp; Nice question Holten. &nbsp; So where ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    BcauseHeLives: boatmen - a quick question &amp; I hope you are not offended by it...I think I know the answer but just want to clarify.&nbsp; Would you ever try to pursuade a person who is committed to staying in a difficult marriage to divorce?&nbsp; &nbsp; NEVER!&nbsp; God forbid that I would do such a thing.&nbsp; As long as they are ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: 3rd Party Coersion

    Free will is a wonderful thing.&nbsp; Libertarians - do what you will until it interferes with another persons free will and you can prove it in a court of law. Legalism - forcing others to do what you are convicted of doing by use of some false moral authority. &nbsp; Nice question Holten.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    HI the way I tend to respond to posts is to glance over them, get a general idea of where it's going, pray and then go back and respond as I read thru them closely.&nbsp; That's why I got to the middle of your post and abandoned responding.&nbsp; My first reading I got the general idea that we'd been here before... and in reading closely it was ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 31, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    Hot Ice: boatmen: CalvinHobbs: The facts tell us that women file for divorce far more often than men.&nbsp; This is also true in the church, as the church divorce rate parallels that of the world.&nbsp; So, we can safely say that most women seeking church remedy in marital disputes already have their minds made up for divorce.For the most part I
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 30, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    I'm sorry, I must have missed this post yesterday. BcauseHeLives: Okay, I get what you are saying better w/dialoguing with you! :) I just wonder at what point you decide that someone is beyond the ability to see hope?&nbsp; Is this something that you pray about &amp; feel God is leading you towards advising divorce?&nbsp; I think I answered ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 30, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    Good Morning Bcause BcauseHeLives:You are so precious boat!&nbsp; What an amazing heart you have for people!!&nbsp; I just wanted you to know that I feel you are blessed to...and I'm sure you've also blessed many others. Thank you boat I do realize how blessed I am...I praise God for all He's done for me &amp; in me...and I know He'll continue ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 30, 2009
  • Re: 1%

    How Do We Lower the Divorce Rate? &nbsp; The realistic concern is that just as we raise the tax rate we get&nbsp;less money, if we make divorce tougher wouldn't we see less marriage? &nbsp; My first fleshly response is that if we were to make marriage within the church a contract with the church then in order to dissolve that contract the ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: My theology is one of eternal security of the believer.&nbsp; No, before the complaints start, I do NOT believe in ''cheap grace''.&nbsp; Therefore, my trust is in what Jesus did for me 2,000 years ago ..... and not my marital state or my works.&nbsp; I take very seriously the far reaching effects of the Atonement.&nbsp;Works is an ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    BcauseHeLives: As for me &amp; my marriage?&nbsp; This is the path God is taking me on.&nbsp; He has always been clear to me that divorce is not an option for me.&nbsp; And slowly over time He has grown my faith stronger &amp; stronger &amp; is working in my heart, molding me into His image...refining me...burning off the dross.&nbsp; I feel ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    BcauseHeLives: boatmen: divorce in church: I thank God that He has shown me that there is hope despite all I, my husband &amp; our children have gone through.&nbsp; Despite the difficulties...there is hope!&nbsp; Hope that doesn't involve destruction that lasts for generations.&nbsp; See this speaks to me of your concern for earthly things ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    divorce in church: boatmen: divorce in church: I thank God that He has shown me that there is hope despite all I, my husband &amp; our children have gone through.&nbsp; Despite the difficulties...there is hope!&nbsp; Hope that doesn't involve destruction that lasts for generations.&nbsp; See this speaks to me of your concern for earthly things ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs:Boatmen, please help me figure out your concern for a person's ''eternal soul'' vs. being fainthearted or the damage of divorce. &nbsp; It's simply a concern that at some point in waiting for reconciliation that a person will lose hope.&nbsp; They lose hope in their spouse, themselves and finally God.&nbsp; While the first two are ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: Boatmen, I'm gonna work on some posts for you that details the importance of the marriage covenant.&nbsp; When we read and pray about this, my hope is that we will all see the Lord's heart. My conviction is that a Christian&nbsp;marriage covenant is a divine joining between a man, a woman, and Jesus.&nbsp; I'm going to start with ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    divorce in church: I thank God that He has shown me that there is hope despite all I, my husband &amp; our children have gone through.&nbsp; Despite the difficulties...there is hope!&nbsp; Hope that doesn't involve destruction that lasts for generations.&nbsp; See this speaks to me of your concern for earthly things rather than Heavenly ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    BcauseHeLives:Just want to add a thought here...hope &amp; destruction are not one &amp; the same.&nbsp; By offering hope to another should we be offering that hope in the form of destruction?&nbsp; Because that is what divorce is, it's the destruction/break up of a marriage &amp; family. &nbsp; Which would you judge to be worse?&nbsp; An ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by boatmen on July 29, 2009
  • Re: Should a Christian ever advise someone that they should divorce?

    CalvinHobbs: Boatmen, I share your concern for those who are fainthearted, especially our sisters in Christ.&n