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  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    Pro.....do you do anything wrong? Is there any sin in your life? here's the answer to your question to&nbsp;make you happy. i'm so sinful that i cant make a sinless person like you to agree in&nbsp;my belief that&nbsp;i find porn so disgusting. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    it makes me sick to my stomach that there're so many people having a hard time believing that not everyone will be aroused by porn. i guess a phedophile who likes child porn would have a hard time believing i'm so sick of what makes them horny.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    why are there so many people having a hard time believing&nbsp;that not everyone will be aroused by those disgusting porn? honestly, how many in here are disgusted with porn? &nbsp; &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    spare_parts: JaneFW:Why do [some] men not shower often enough?&nbsp; Do any guys here shower every day?&nbsp; Sorry ..I'm just curious.I dunno.&nbsp; Sometimes I shower twice a day, especially if I work out hard and come home sweaty. lol
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    so, do you think Adam and the first woman married? god joined them n made them one flesh. i believe they're husband n wife. That is why a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and they will become one flesh. genesis 2:24 are you saying those in a common law marriage arent living in sin? are you saying they ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    DIVORCE happens when the vows are broken, not when the couple gets a piece of paper that's not true. And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. mark 10:4 i dont believe&nbsp;you two are married w/o a piece of paper that you both signed together.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    To my ear, those two statements contradict each other.Without the intimacy the relationship is - by definition- not ''right''. you may be in the right relationship, but you&nbsp;arent that&nbsp;intimate. the newly wed&nbsp;couple for example, they've the right relationship, but not that intimate yet. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: Questions for Married Couples

    the arrogant and proud&nbsp;will never know who i am in christ the lord. they&nbsp;have no idea who i am in christ&nbsp;jesus. &nbsp; &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: Questions for Married Couples

    i'm thankful to&nbsp;the lord&nbsp;to encounter people who are proud and arrogant&nbsp;that god may help me see even more how i can praise the lord for his true humility. I am so thankful i dont encounter people who are so filled with self righteousness, but rather those who know they need a savior as badly as I and my wife do..... no dic. i ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    the op talks about why evangelical christians have higher divorce rates than atheist. christians&nbsp;already have the right relationship w/ the lord. the problem is&nbsp;an intimacy w/ god can be missing.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    that's only for those who dont have the right relationships w/him yet. I think GOD's #1 Priority is right relationship with HIMConsequences, chastisement, discipline, pain are a ''WAKE UP!'' call christians&nbsp;have the right relationship w/ the lord, but&nbsp;may be&nbsp;lacking an&nbsp;intimacy.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    this is true beauty And let the beauty of the LORD our God be upon us: and establish thou the work of our hands upon us; yea, the work of our hands establish thou it. psalm 90:17 that's ugly Everyone who has pride in his heart is disgusting to the Lord: he will certainly not go free from punishment. proverbs 16:5
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    divorce in church: pro31:26: dont forget the unwanted&nbsp;baggage&nbsp;unpack into&nbsp;ideal christian&nbsp;marriage. you wonder why&nbsp;your spouse&nbsp;calls her-himself a christian when&nbsp;they arent&nbsp;acting like one! atheist dont have to wonder&nbsp;why their spouse isnt acting like christian. :) This comment presupposes that one
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    TD&amp;H: Psalm 63:What if DIVORCE in church is God's will? a chastisement? because of our idolatry?&nbsp; Gola...is that you? &nbsp; god's perfect will is to build the marriage&nbsp;stronger&nbsp;from his foundation. however -&nbsp;god in his permissive will - allows divorce due to adultery n a hardness of heart. his permission vs. his ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 21, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    let's be honest here people. But the LORD told Samuel, ''Don't look at his appearance or how tall he is, because I have rejected him. God does not see as humans see. Humans look at outward appearances, but the LORD looks into the heart.'' 1 samuel 16:7
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    I always thought that telling my wife that I don't want anything about her appearance that happens to not be the real her would do it..................... unfortunately, there're tons of men who ogle&nbsp;at those fake women rather than their real&nbsp;wife. The article cited a 2003 British survey which found that 39% of women said porn had a
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    their home sweet home. :) the handsome&nbsp;grandpa sitting beside great great grandpa.&nbsp;lol&nbsp;:) whoever says that man isnt good looking, they better watch out for their grandchildren&nbsp;alive to hunt them.&nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    Society places similarly destructive pressures on men too. Not necessarily in the area of physical attractiveness, but certainly similar in impact. dont forget cultures differ. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: Have we discsussed "release:?

    that verse doesnt talk about god releasing anyone from the marriage. it was only permitted to divorce.&nbsp;this means that a faithful spouse is&nbsp;permitted to&nbsp;send the adulterer away.&nbsp; Mark 102 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, ''Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?'' 3 ''What did Moses command you?'' he ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: Have we discsussed "release:?

    mark 10:&nbsp;4&nbsp;They said, โ€œMoses permitted a man TO WRITE A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY.โ€ 5&nbsp;But Jesus said to them, โ€œBecause of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment that&nbsp;verse is talking about&nbsp;an adulterer being put away by&nbsp;a faithful spouse with&nbsp;a hardness of heart, because of the ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: Have we discsussed "release:?

    I believe God desires for us to reconcile all of relationships in and out marriage, that's why we have a Matt 18.&nbsp; However, he allows or permits divorce due to adultery if the couple or the betrayed spouse&nbsp;can't work it out.&nbsp;&nbsp; God is not happy that what he joined together ends in divorce and he is not happy that there was ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    dont forget the unwanted&nbsp;baggage&nbsp;unpack into&nbsp;ideal christian&nbsp;marriage. you wonder why&nbsp;your spouse&nbsp;calls her-himself a christian when&nbsp;they arent&nbsp;acting like one! atheist dont have to wonder&nbsp;why their spouse isnt acting like christian. :)
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    I want both love and respect! :) yes, i have that book as well. :) have you read love n respect? &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: WHY is the divorce rate for atheists lower than that for evangelical Christians?

    I couldn't agree with you more.&nbsp; I was thinking something similar last night.&nbsp; Not only is&nbsp;the expectation of marriage high, but the expectations of individuals is very high among Christians.&nbsp; There seems to be a need to fix a spouse over accepting a spouse.&nbsp; Just look at all the threads posted here by people who wish ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: 10 Things Guys Wish Women Knew...

    i read this book. men would rather feel respected than love n women would rather feel love than respected. :)
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 20, 2009
  • Re: Have we discsussed "release:?

    &nbsp;I believe you owe&nbsp;a sincere appology to SHP, DIC and the other readers on here. i dont think pyhig needs to apologize to seekinghispeace n dic. seeking n dic&nbsp;want a law that you remain married to an adulterer. they make perfect team mate for fighting that law.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 19, 2009
  • Re: Have we discsussed "release:?

    No one is dictating your husband to leave you if you choose to have sex with dozens of men.&nbsp; You can spread your legs wide open to any man who would come near you if you choose to.&nbsp; that's the disgusting sin that others are willing to put w/in their marriage.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 19, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    the GOSPEL frees women, it does not put them into bondagethe fruit of the Spirit is from the SPIRIT, not from trying really hard to jump through Eggerich's ''performance hoop'' the lord&nbsp;sets us&nbsp;free. it wasnt mine,&nbsp;eggrich, or your own&nbsp;performance. romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 18, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    ephesians5:33 But each individual man among you must love his wife as he loves himself; and may the wife fear her husband &nbsp; why&nbsp;the lord did&nbsp;tell us to fear him? &nbsp; psalm111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; A good understanding have all those who do His commandments; His praise endures forever. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 18, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    Well, I don't think that formula is BiblicalUnless one can somehow twist Jesus into Eggerich's definition of ''respectful'' when he holds the Pharisees accountable for their sin in Matthew 23, when he turns over the tables in the temple, etc. jesus&nbsp;knocked over their tables. he didnt knocked the people. john2:15He made a whip from ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 18, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    But IT DOES NOT WORK IN ABUSIVE MARRIAGESIt ENABLES THE ABUSE TO CONTINUE the book never tells you to respect the abuse. it tells you to respect the abuser. it isnt teaching anyone to enables the abusive behavior. you can set your boundaries in marriage&nbsp;but&nbsp;it needs to be done with love n respect.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 18, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    I LIVED L &amp; R It doesn't work in abusive marriagesI'd recommend ''Boundaries in Marriage'' (click the link for a quote)It helped me and some others I know.&nbsp; setting your boundaries in marriage without doing it with love and respect is useless.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 18, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    thank you everyone for taking the time to post. i learned a lot from you all. :) god's word is the only&nbsp;truth. not people's opinions.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    Grand Illusion:My parents were divorced when I was four and I have no memory of my dad ever living with us. It was like he was just a friend of the family who would stop by once and a while.&nbsp; Everyone thought it was cute when I called him ''daddy.''&nbsp; After the divorce, my mother never saw any other men or expressed any romantic feelings ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    divorce in church: pro31:26: Yes I am positively sure that that is what I think. Not saying that it doesn't have any effect on how the person comes to view women, thanks. I'm just saying that the not being equipped to know what a man is supposed to be is a bigger problem. that too. is it possible that a single mom raising her ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    I said I honor my mom....i DIDNT say she taught me to.cant you see that? you&nbsp;may want to read all your posts again from this thread.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    disagreeing isnt the same as disrespectful if you find my disagreeing w/your opinions&nbsp;to be the same as&nbsp;disrespectful. i respect that you're entitled to your own opinion.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    But I never agreed with DIC about that.&nbsp; I only agreed with DIC about how you are treating the men who shared their experiences with you. the men youโ€™ve been protecting who grew up w/selfish mom n were cheated by their unfaithful wife have never shared their experienced with me. they only revealed who theyโ€™be become because of their own ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: We're From Gov't and here to End Your marriage

    2. The anger toward ''women'' in general is misplaced. It seems like several people may have good reason to be angry at specific women. I understand that. no kidding! faithful women get a&nbsp;slap on the face by those married&nbsp;men w/ an&nbsp;unfaithful&nbsp;wife or selfish mom. &nbsp; &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    if you tried saving your husband in your 22 years of marriage. we know that wont happen because it was never your job to do that. i noticed in your post that you're still trying to save your husband. stop saving him, start winning him for christ! &nbsp; &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    I DID the woman side of L&amp;R for 22 years...and DIED inside, STARVED TO DEATHI can't tell you how many times my husband has ''rebuked'' me ''You USED TO BE respectful (And NOW you are a horrid, miserable, rotten, contentious, rebellious SINNER!)'' love n respect by dr. emerson wasnt published in your 22 years of marriage. Author: Dr. ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    Once again, this insult must be the result of your trying to communicate in english as a second language. i use pure english. not english as a second language. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    My post clearly states that a selfish woman&nbsp;can't teach her children&nbsp;how to honor her.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that's exactly&nbsp;how dic n spare described their mom. you agreed w/ dic's experienced that he learned to honor his mom&nbsp;despite being selfish. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: We're From Gov't and here to End Your marriage

    If you dont see the problems with your questions i cannot help answer them. No one said a single iota about the government coming into marriages and helping fix marriage problems.Did you really read that in these posts? Seriously.....the communication issue has grown acute...can you tell me, did you seruiously see someone suggesting government ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: We're From Gov't and here to End Your marriage

    what's exactly the intent of bringing the government into your marriage problems&nbsp;n make them responsible&nbsp;for the reasons of&nbsp;your divorce? why blame the church or the government for not being able to stop or prevent your spouse for making a choice not to divorce you? the church or the government didnt make a choice to choose your ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    zogi can love his wife unconditionally n his wife can respect him unconditionally. they dont earn it. they deserve it.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: Define Spiritual

    Bad doctrine about marriage---&gt; DIVORCE in church divorce in church is absolutely a bad teaching. that's why i recommend love n respect by dr. emerson http://www.loveandrespect.com/content/highDivorceRateVideo.php &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    divorce in church: SeekingHisPeace: divorce in church:Someone needs to tell you that it really is wrong what you are doing here...baiting topics then passing judgement on those who participate.You are just wrong.....you really are offensive, and wrong. You went after dads...you insult and disparage people, you contradict our life experiences we ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    is that how you teach honor to your child seekinghispeace by sleeping w/other men? i can respect you as a person if you want to do that, but i dont agree w/you to have sex w/other men n believe that your child can learn honor from you for doing that.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    SeekingHisPeace: pro31:26: Pro, take your own advice and treat these men with respect.&nbsp; They deserve it...especially after coming into this thread and&nbsp;sharing their personal experiences.&nbsp; They don't deserve to be slapped in the face by you.&nbsp; i dont have any intention to attack anyone here. i'm here to learn even from you.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    Hot Ice: SeekingHisPeace: pro31:26:can a parent install honor into their children by showing an example to their children that they can change relationships like a pair of socks? I think you are beginning to understand how a selfish woman might not have children who know how to honor her.&nbsp; Well said. i dont agree that you can sleep w/ ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 17, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    can a parent install honor into their children by showing an example to their children that they can change relationships like a pair of socks?
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 16, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    Read the article.&nbsp; Children weren't born knowing the commandments.&nbsp; Parents have a responsibility to instill honor into their children. you are correct. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 16, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    Parents have a&nbsp;vital role in&nbsp;instilling and retaining honor. how do you honor your parents for calling them selfish seeking?
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by pro31:26 on January 16, 2009
  • Re: question for dad raised by single mom

    Pro, take your own advice and treat these men with respect.&nbsp; They deserve it...especially after coming into this thread and&nbsp;sharing their personal experiences.&nbsp; They don't deserve to be slapped in the face by you.&nbsp; i dont have any in