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  • Re: The Final Countdown!

    BcauseHeLives: Today was the first day of school for my oldest 3.&nbsp; DD#1 is going into her senior year &amp; is really excited.&nbsp; It seems like just yesterday I was a senior in HS...blah!&nbsp; Time goes by so fast!!&nbsp; She is going to be taking one college course &amp; will be a TA this year as well...not sure for which class ...
    Posted to Parenting Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on September 10, 2009
  • Re: Help!! My 3 year old goes crazy!!

    YAHAMA82:Hey, if I could get some help/insite, I would appreiacte it. I have a 3 year old boy who really knows how to make me mad! lol I'll tell him to do something, like come here, shut the fridge, don't play with this or that, and he'll freak out! He'll get really mad and cry and stomp his feet and tell me stuff like 'One more time!' or 'I want ...
    Posted to Parenting Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on September 10, 2009
  • Re: Poohgirl requests your prayers

    boonies191:Speaking of prayers...does anyone remember Baron Stogner? he used to post on the hour and half-hour over the trials and tribulations of his circling -the-drain marriage ...and long prayers for everyone north of the Equator who was standing for their marriage...anyone know of his whereabouts/current status?Just asking... You know?&nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 24, 2009
  • Re: Poohgirl requests your prayers

    ((pooh))&nbsp; thanks for the update. Lord, comfort and keep this family in Your arms.&nbsp; ''Word of God speak.&nbsp; Won't you pour down like rain.'' Be near, Oh God. In Jesus name amen
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 21, 2009
  • Re: should i leave my husband

    PearsandGrapes: 4cats62:I was out of the country for a good four months by my self to take care of a dying father, and&nbsp; in the course of that four months my children would tell me to come home early because they sense that some thing is fishy with thier father and to top of it all he is pastor......&nbsp; to cut the long story short, i ...
    Posted to Women's Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 20, 2009
  • Re: should i leave my husband

    4cats62:I was out of the country for a good four months by my self to take care of a dying father, and&nbsp; in the course of that four months my children would tell me to come home early because they sense that some thing is fishy with thier father and to top of it all he is pastor......&nbsp; to cut the long story short, i foundout in the ...
    Posted to Women's Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 20, 2009
  • Re: The Final Countdown!

    dallasapple: YAY!!! &nbsp; My youngest starting 8th grade on Monday next..and my middle starting first semester college(community) end of August (FINALLY!! HE TOOK THE PROVERBIAL YEAR OFF!!!)./... Just spent $800 for his books and $500 for his classes(10 hours just under full time)...I KNOW not expensive but its like (SHOCK) His behiny better
    Posted to Parenting Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 19, 2009
  • Re: The Final Countdown!

    His grace shines: Our kids actually started last Thursday (13th)...early this year.&nbsp; At first I wasn't ready as the summer really was busy and went fast - but then the day before the sibling fighting started so I was like ''yep...time to go back!'' Oldest DD is a Junior - taking honors classes and college prep...lots of homework ...
    Posted to Parenting Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 19, 2009
  • Re: Poohgirl requests your prayers

    Father God, let Your peace that passes all understanding and sorrow be with this family. I pray that the Holy Spirit would be upon them and His comfort surround them.&nbsp; Be the lifter of their heads and may Your good and perfect will be done.&nbsp; Be near them, God, I ask in Jesus name Amen.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 19, 2009
  • The Final Countdown!

    Well, tomorrow is the day!&nbsp; My baby will be starting her first day of Kindergarten...and that will mean all my chicks will have flown the coop for the year. :( Time is truly flying by! Her teacher is *wonderful* and I am very excited for her!&nbsp; My oldest DD got the teacher we requested as well, and her best friend is in her class for ...
    Posted to Parenting Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 18, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude:I am feeling rejected by your petty sophomoric games. I came into this thread to honestly try and help.&nbsp; I was not then, nor am I now trying to be petty or playing games.&nbsp; I have never been a game player with people. I am sorry to have offended you. Blessings. &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 18, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude:&nbsp;However, posters have continued to focus on the reason for rejection, which has confirmed that at least the posters on this website support rejection, otherwise there would be no concern about what is abused as the cause. I am very sorry. I guess its the mom in me, and the teacher in me...but...I am a firm believer in 2 sides to ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 17, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    Could it be that instead of rejecting you because she can't control you, she&nbsp;is allowing you to live how you see fit, but not participating in your life?&nbsp; Is that what you see as the rejection? If so, are you familiar with the story that Christ told of the father who let his son go his own way, but didn't participate in that with ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 17, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude:As stated multiple times, when we ask our sister about her rejection, she says it is her beliefs and does not want to talk about it.&nbsp; Thus leaving her rejection the issue. As we are a Christian Family, we can only assume these anti-family values are promoted by her corporation, Family Life, as rejection is not a value of our ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 17, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: My intent here has been clearly stated.&nbsp; I do not reject my sister, but am trying to understand how to respond to her rejection of family members.&nbsp; I have gained insight into the issue which is confirmed by Hot Ice's and your&nbsp;posts The recent posts&nbsp;are inquiring in attempts to try to change others, however it is for ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 17, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: I wouldn't know - she refuses to communicate.&nbsp; Strange family values - as I said - dysfunctional. Well, sorry about that.&nbsp; It would seem that communication about whatever the problem is *would* be best. :( Blessings to you!
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 15, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: Sounds like you have gotten it - what stands in the way of that unity is her rejection.&nbsp; I came asking how to deal with it, and as stated, gained insight into that, as well as why. Thanks yet again. You're welcome Ü You don't have to answer...in fact..it's really ok not to...but, have you&nbsp;asked yourself&nbsp;what she ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 15, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: Thank you all for your concerns, however you appear to be digging for something that is not there, nor is relevant to the harm she imposes on the family. I have not come to poke a finger, but rather express an anti-family concern and try to gain some insight.&nbsp; There is also no need to continue your inquisition - her actions are ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 15, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: If it helps - it is the extreme type of rejection that I have witnessed often drives people away from their families, often encourages them to self-harm, and sometimes leads to death, or at least rejection of faith - even if the one rejecting views it as love - sometimes the hurt/wounds are too deep/for too long, and instead of ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: anniversaries

    StillHopeful123: well, our 13th-year anniversary was last month. he got me nothing. suggested we go out to eat at Arby's. &nbsp; ((StillHopeful)) We have had many a ''non romantic'' anniversary (this year was one).&nbsp; It is hard when you get your hopes up that something magical will happen and then just...doesn't. :( Marriage is ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: anniversaries

    BcauseHeLives: PearsandGrapes: Hey! Ü&nbsp; Thank's everybody for the good wishes and blessings...Lord, knows that every marriage needs it!&nbsp; I appreciate it very much! &nbsp; How was the anniversary? :) Quiet.&nbsp; We drove around town and decided on a Mexican restaurant.&nbsp; Not much, but what was a right fit for this year.
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: If it helps - it is the extreme type of rejection that I have witnessed often drives people away from their families, often encourages them to self-harm, and sometimes leads to death, or at least rejection of faith - even if the one rejecting views it as love - sometimes the hurt/wounds are too deep/for too long, and instead of ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude:Again, that is irrelevant.&nbsp; Rejection breaks the family, no matter what the reason, or what scripture is being abused to break the family. It is impossible to give advice on how to handle the rejection if more details are not given.&nbsp; Is it really rejection, or is it that she just isn't doing what you want exactly how you want it
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude:Thank you pearandgrapes.&nbsp; I have not been vague - the root cause of the issue affecting our family is rejection.&nbsp; Rejection breaks families.&nbsp; As stated, in this brief thread I have gained insight and advice.&nbsp; As also stated, I don't think rejecting my sibling is healthy for our family, just as her rejection of her ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: "Loving" Rejection of Siblings

    DelDude: Thank you also boatmen. I have spent most of my life ministering to the wonderful people that are spiritually abused, rejected and/or abandoned by their families, usually in Christ's name, via a few convenient scriptures, often taken out of context. I have faced similar treatment from my sister, but through the grace of God, I come ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 14, 2009
  • Re: Actions: guided from Thinking, or Feeling

    Thanks, Holten for sharing this.&nbsp; Good stuff!
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 12, 2009
  • Re: anniversaries

    Hey! Ü&nbsp; Thank's everybody for the good wishes and blessings...Lord, knows that every marriage needs it!&nbsp; I appreciate it very much! &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 12, 2009
  • anniversaries

    On Tuesday, my 19 anninversary will be here. I can not believe how quickly time is flying by!&nbsp; I think we are just going to keep it low key this year.&nbsp; I thought it would be fun to share how long people have been married, what makes it work and maybe share&nbsp;a favorite memory. Mine is from last years anni.&nbsp; We were able to ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 7, 2009
  • The Blind Side

    I was just at the Yahoo page and watched the *best* trailer for a movie coming out in November!&nbsp; I am really excited about seeing The Blind Side.&nbsp; Gave me goosebumps just watching the clips of it and then, a message flashed saying that it was based on a true story!&nbsp; A very much feel good movie! Has anyone else heard of it?
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 7, 2009
  • Re: My Mother Decided on Hospice

    pooh girl: My mother went to the doctor today and decided on Hospice. Last night I was laying with her in bed and talked her into eating a&nbsp;ice cream cup.&nbsp; She had not wanted anything prior.&nbsp; She only eats 3 things for the most part and it took alot of probing to figure out what she would eat at all.&nbsp; So, she will eat ice ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 5, 2009
  • Re: 1%

    BcauseHeLives: chaz345: Holten:But I think your recollections and/or characterizations of those exchanges/threads aren't congruent with those of most of the other participants.Well there is one aspect, the one that is most bothersome to me, that is not subject to interpretation or recollection. And that's the fact that I have never meant the ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 4, 2009
  • Re: maybe it's me?

    BerthaAgain: &nbsp;maybe I have unrealistic idea's about life...maybe I expect too much...maybe I live in another dimension...maybe I'm not meant to be married...maybe....maybe....maybe To shorten this story as much as possible:&nbsp; I had an issue with my son's school today and asked my husband for support -- he tried calling them to no avail,
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 4, 2009
  • Re: 1%

    CalvinHobbs: The sad fact is .... and the FACTS don't lie .... there are many of ''God's daughters'' who are liars and manipulators.&nbsp; Why are there quotes around God's daughters?&nbsp; It looks like it is to question the validity of their salvation...is that true? If so, are we called to judge another's salvation?&nbsp; If we are ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 4, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    formerlyalpha:It may be that any authority over another has to be earned?&nbsp;There seems to be scant evidence in the N T for the kind of imposed authority that passes for the kind of ''covering'' concept where a church leader orders people around.When authority is earned, it's recognition comes easily. Jesus earned the right to speak into his ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 4, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs:I knew this thread would degenerate into a discussion about the abusive side of pastoral authority.&nbsp; Seems we can't discuss any issue without it becoming an emotional thing about the rarities.&nbsp; There's always an exception to the rule.&nbsp; Why can't we for once set aside the exceptions and simply discuss the rule???&nbsp; I ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 4, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    Holten: Chaz is asking pretty much what I was wondering about. P&amp;G... given everything you've said, to come at this from a different direction...&nbsp; instead of what a pastor is NOT, what do you believe a pastor *IS*? I agree with a lot of what you've said - pastors aren't intermediaries to God, etc.&nbsp; And this isn't any sort of ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    chaz345:Ok but doesn't the fact that one has attained the title of Pastor prove something in terms of their Biblical knowledge? Sure.&nbsp; Do you feel like I am saying that they don't? &nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    chaz345:While we agree that a Pastor isn't higher up or isn't a necessary intermediary between us and God, consider the following. Aren't you likely to give at least a little more weight to what a pastor says about what a particular passage means, even as applies to your own life that you would to the opinion of someone here or someone who has ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    PearsandGrapes: CalvinHobbs: P&amp;G ..... God ranked the workings of I Cor. 12:28, I didn't.&nbsp; You might want to ask Him why He did this? I can't see what this ranking of God has to do with works as filthy rags??? I don't think God is ranking the workings by way of status, but by way of what came first within the church as it was being ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs: P&amp;G ..... God ranked the workings of I Cor. 12:28, I didn't.&nbsp; You might want to ask Him why He did this? I can't see what this ranking of God has to do with works as filthy rags??? I don't think God is ranking the workings by way of status, but by way of what came first within the church as it was being built.&nbsp; We ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs: P&amp;G, in light of what you just said ..... how do you apply I Cor. 12:28? 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs:I see, so you actually had a point you were trying to make in a round about way, sister???&nbsp; I thought you had some legitimate questions and had wanted some legitimate answers.&nbsp; You had an an agenda .... huh?&nbsp; Would you see what you did as a type of abuse? Lol.&nbsp; Ok, back to ignoring you.&nbsp; I am not going to be ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    chaz345:What you feel is from God's word?&nbsp; How is that defined? And what if the person offering correction or whatever feels equally strongly that what they are saying IS from God's word? I feel that preaching God's word is from God's word.&nbsp; When we are asked to turn in our Bibles to...and then a message is preached about that.&nbsp;
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs:Here we go again in defining ''abuse''.&nbsp; Let's do it this way ..... show me a specific instance and I'll tell you whether or not IMO it constitutes abuse.&nbsp; Deal? I think I would just like this question of mine to be one we all ask quietly to ourselves and truly search our hearts before God, asking Him if there be any wicked ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs: &nbsp; The elders&nbsp; primary responsibility&nbsp;is shepherds. It is to feed the flock of God and not to be lords over them.&nbsp; Peter reminds them that the church&nbsp;doesn't belong to them,&nbsp;it is Gods. They&nbsp;are not&nbsp;the corporate head of the church; Jesus Christ is.&nbsp; Their responsibilities are to gently ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    chaz345:In a practical sense, pastor's have virtually zero authority because as soon as he says something that someone doesn't like, they can just bail and go to another church. We have left a church because of the direction the Pastor was taking the body, and we left for a time from the church we are in now because of how the Pastor *treated* ...
    Posted to Family Forum (Forum) by PearsandGrapes on August 3, 2009
  • Re: Pastoral authority

    CalvinHobbs: I Peter 5 shows us the&nbsp;overall theme&nbsp;of the pastor, though not specific duties. 1To