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The ones who got punished aren't always the worst offenders...the complainers are usually the worst offenders IMO.
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I hope and pray your prayer is answered as well as mine :-D
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I use to consider this my home site where I would share my daily thoughts. There was a lot of conflict, but it didn't push me away. Then they shut it down for a month or so to revamp it. Nothing was the same since then.
The banning of certain people and not their foes doesn't do justice or help resolve the problem. It only enables one side to ...
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I still haven't gotten use to the format. I liked the older web design much better. Not being able to edit is a major bummer. Expecting people who are having marriage problems to act civil is kind of far fetched. It's not acting civil that causes the marriage problems in the first place and it takes a lot to change that in people who are in the ...
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Hugs and prayers from here pooh
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This is certainly a good topic, so I look forward to seeing in BHL :-D
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We need to learn to figure out who we are listening to. There are several ''voices'' to distinguish from. There is the Holy Spirit, who we should be listening to, but satan and his cohorts are also trying to decive us as well as our own thoughts, feelings and emotions, (which are a result of our perceptions, which may or may not be ...
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Chaz, because feelings are fickle I make a distinction form being ''in'' love and loving someone. To love someone means to me. at least, how you treat them. Being in love with someone is how you feel about them. Yes, feelings are fickle and they come and go, but love remains the same.
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As far I'm concerned, love is a set of actions found in 1 Cor 13. From my experience, that really bothers people. Here's why. When you're in love, or have the feelings and emotions accociated with love, you seem to automatically do the things in 1 Cor 13. The challenge, though, is loving (a la 1 Cor 13) someone who has hurt you.
Lately I have been
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Tubalcain:
Zogi:In what way?
The exercise of power and control over others.
Are you familiar with Jefferson's Credo: ''I have sworn upon the Altar of Almighty God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.'' So have I.
Admitedly, there's a fine balance between rightfully warning people ...
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...and as if you're the final word sheesh lol
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Absolutely part of the 'entitlement'' mindset that started in the 60's and has really shown up in our kids IMO
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Tubalcain: Zogi:
Biblical Literacism was a minority view
Remember:
Matthew 7:13-14 (NASB77) 13 ''Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it. 14 ''For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it.
Going with ...
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It's just that ding dang coveting and wanting to fit in that keeps us running after THAT carrot...when Jesus said He would provide food and clothes if we would just seek first His Kingdom and Paul said we should lear to be satisfied with just food and clothes, it wasn't to keep us down, it was to free us up.
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Biblical Literacism was a minority view
Remember:
Matthew 7:13-14 (NASB77) 13 ''Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide, and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and many are those who enter by it. 14 ''For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those who find it.
Going with the flow is ...
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Tubalcain:
Zogi:Tubalcain, the reason you don't believe the written Word as it is written is what? The Bible is fairly clear as to when it is prophetic and when it is literal. To try and say it is all subjective or all literal is wrong. It is mostly very specific and hard to dismiss unless you have a preconceived agenda to do so which still ...
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Tubalcain, the reason you don't believe the written Word as it is written is what? The Bible is fairly clear as to when it is prophetic and when it is literal. To try and say it is all subjective or all literal is wrong. It is mostly very specific and hard to dismiss unless you have a preconceived agenda to do so which still isn't right. When it's ...
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TimD65:
Zogi:I spent a few weeks debating with some hard core non believers on a secular site and what amazed me the most was telling them the evidence for the Theory of Evolution (TOE) and The Theory of Intelligent Design (ID) or Creation is the same evidence, the difference being how it is used. I used DNA as an example. The TOE ...
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I spent a few weeks debating with some hard core non believers on a secular site and what amazed me the most was telling them the evidence for the Theory of Evolution (TOE) and The Theory of Intelligent Design (ID) or Creation is the same evidence, the difference being how it is used. I used DNA as an example. The TOE uses DNA to show ...
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Edit ''Sure I do'' to ''Sure I am''
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Tubalcain: Zogi:
Tubalcain, I'm still not quite sure what you're getting at here. There is a huge difference between extremeists and fundamentalists and lumping us all together is very inaccurate, extremely misleading and just flat out wrong.
What I found quite interesting is your belief that being able to fight with words is a badge ...
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Tubalcain, I'm still not quite sure what you're getting at here. There is a huge difference between extremeists and fundamentalists and lumping us all together is very inaccurate, extremely misleading and just flat out wrong.
What I found quite interesting is your belief that being able to fight with words is a badge of honor. Being able
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Tubalcain:
Zogi:Tubalcain, I'm not sure what in the world you are doing here with your subjective belief system. I can tell you that from my experience so far, anyone that says truth is subjective doesn't know the meaning of truth. Now, if you simply want to say it's important to look deeper for the truth, fine. But to say absolute truth is
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JaneFW: Zogi: JaneFW: Zogi:
JaneFW:A married woman belongs to her husband.Excuse me? I beg to differ. Slavery went out a long time ago in most parts of the world.
Take everything to the extreme to try to dismiss it. Lovely. Anyway, chew on this:
1 Corinthians 7:4 (NASB77) 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but ...
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I hope it goes well for you and yes I prayed :-D
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PearsandGrapes:
Zogi:Oh come on. I was being fascecious about committing adultery simply to prove a point.
What point do you feel you proved?
Zogi: Although as Christians we know we are supposed to suffer wrong doing without retaliating, it's reasonable to make the point that if I am going to pay the price for something I want ...
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JaneFW:
Jesus DID NOT say it was adultery. He said it was adultery in the heart. If He meant adultery, He would have simply said adultery. Why do you people not get the difference?
Zogi, are you prepared to argue that with Jesus when the time comes? If so, then it's not much worth debating. The fact is that porn use damages ...
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JaneFW: Zogi:
JaneFW:A married woman belongs to her husband.Excuse me? I beg to differ. Slavery went out a long time ago in most parts of the world.
Take everything to the extreme to try to dismiss it. Lovely. Anyway, chew on this:
1 Corinthians 7:4 (NASB77) 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband ...
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Bob'sRib:
Zogi, if Jesus said it was adultery, it doesn't matter to Him whether it is in your heart or all over your body. It is adultery. The difference..? ''In your heart'' maybe only you and Jesus are the only ones that know. And the conseceinces(I know I misspelled it) are probably more spiritual. Physical adultery involves ...
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JaneFW: Zogi:
Holten, coveting is wanting someone elses possesions, not someone else so you are basing your argument on the wrong criteria.
I understand about our thoughts and our heart. I thought I made that clear. But acting on them is different than having them. We must master sin so that we don't act on it. I get that. We all know what ...
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JaneFW:A married woman belongs to her husband.Excuse me? I beg to differ. Slavery went out a long time ago in most parts of the world.
Take everything to the extreme to try to dismiss it. Lovely. Anyway, chew on this:
1 Corinthians 7:4 (NASB77) 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise ...
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Ggood question. What is fair is expecting love to be real enough that you don't have to worry about what your spouse does or doesn't do because you are both giving it your all.
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Holten:
Zogi:Holten, coveting is wanting someone elses possesions, not someone else so you are basing your argument on the wrong criteria.
That is just wrong. And I think YOU should know it's wrong because not too many postings ago you tried to differentiate between a married woman and a single woman.
No matter... the Commandment ...
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Holten, coveting is wanting someone elses possesions, not someone else so you are basing your argument on the wrong criteria.
I understand about our thoughts and our heart. I thought I made that clear. But acting on them is different than having them. We must master sin so that we don't act on it. I get that. We all know what Cain did when he
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If it's drugs, there isn't much to go on in the Bible other than deductive reasoning. I personally don't think anything that isn't addressed clearly and directly is anything worth judging people over. Even drinking has posative as well as negative statements in the Bible, but there's still a lot of condemnation by Christians over having a beer once
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All I know is if I knew it would be considered the same, I would have much preferrred the pleasure of an affair...and fully understand the consequences...
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If you believe that viewing porn is the same as committing adultery, then you are taking what Jesus said further than what He meant and what good reason arrives at. The two acts are completely different. And remember the way you judge others is the way you will be judged.
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Tubalcain, I'm not sure what in the world you are doing here with your subjective belief system. I can tell you that from my experience so far, anyone that says truth is subjective doesn't know the meaning of truth. Now, if you simply want to say it's important to look deeper for the truth, fine. But to say absolute truth is subjective, that's
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I'd much rather God be the judge than you people. Jesus did NOT say lust = adultery. He said lust = adultery in the heart. If He meant adultery, He would NOT have said ''in your heart''. If we are all going to be judged by what is in our heart, fine, but let God be the judge because none of us really knows what is going on in each others ...
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As far as me laying down my life, you have no clue how much I have done that and continue to do with nothing in return. Am I perfect or even close? No. But that doesn't mean I don't give it my all more often than not.
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Also I have spoken to Joel on the phone and corresponded with him via email enough to know he is an out and out hypocrite and false prophet that is destroying as many or more marriages than he claims he is saving.
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What am I denying? This condemnation, this living in the past, this harsh judgmentalism and these out and out false acusations are really getting old.
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If Jesus meant lust = adultery, then why didn't He say that outright? He didn't. He simply said that lust was adultery in the heart, nothing more and nothing less. It was a warning not to let it get that far because once it gets that far it's that much closer to becoming a reality. Requiring more than Jesus does is the same thing Jesus got on ...
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Psalm 63: bluesangel:''Psalm 63''I just think it a tiny bit hypocritical for those who did not make it through to lecture me about the ways in which I have hung on to my marriage...which includes figuring out that I am an individual with human rights and dignity which was robbed from me by some of the garbage the ''church'' teaches.I would like ...
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bluesangel:''Psalm 63''I just think it a tiny bit hypocritical for those who did not make it through to lecture me about the ways in which I have hung on to my marriage...which includes figuring out that I am an individual with human rights and dignity which was robbed from me by some of the garbage the ''church'' teaches.I would like to address ...
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chaz345: Zogi:It sounds like something my estranged wife should read, because she is the one that has been complaining that I have been manipulating her, when all I have been trying to do is get things going in the right direction.But Zogi, keep in mind that in that author's world, anything and everything that she might do is a perfectly ...
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JaneFW:I just don't believe God would dangle a carrot in front of us and then pull it away and laugh or worse, punish us for chasing it. I'm not talking about something evil that the devil does. I'm talking about core drives that are quite natural, not carnal and evil, but natural and God given. Certainly we are supposed to control ourselves ...
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PearsandGrapes: Zogi:
JaneFW:As far as I was concerned, full blown adultery was completely out of the question, so once I realized I was kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place for a long timeWhat is half-blown adultery?You are not alone in being denied true intimacy in your marriage, Zogi, and many others are ''stuck between a rock ...
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I've heard it compared to Facebook, but I have never tried it since I don't use Myspace or Facebook even though I have signed up for both.
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How is it better than email or IM's? I've never tried it. All of my friends and family prefer the phone anyway.
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It sounds like something my estranged wife should read, because she is the one that has been complaining that I have been manipulating her, when all I have been trying to do is get things going in the right direction.
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JaneFW:I just don't believe God would dangle a carrot in front of us and then pull it away and laugh or worse, punish us for chasing it. I'm not talking about something evil that the devil does. I'm talking about core drives that are quite natural, not carnal and evil, but natural and God given. Certainly we are supposed to control ourselves ...
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JaneFW:As far as I was concerned, full blown adultery was completely out of the question, so once I realized I was kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place for a long timeWhat is half-blown adultery?You are not alone in being denied true intimacy in your marriage, Zogi, and many others are ''stuck between a rock and a hard place'' - ...
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bluesangel:Only if they stay in the victim mentality..and don't move past it..
Yep, like iluvmrcy (not sure if I got her screen named just right)
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