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hoplon:Regarding scriptural interpretation there is much to say. To begin with the majority of Christians today have opted for some of the many watered down versions of the Bible available today. Few self confessed Bible believing Christians really know the word, and fewer still have a good working knowledge of the translational errors ...
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hoplon:No, I clearly stated that The Lord only has the correct insight, and we must defer to His word. You stated ''Evidently you feel that you have the only insight. I disagree.'' If your disagreement is that you feel that my insight is not the only one, I did not say that it was, I said that His insight was the only one and that ours is ...
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A large number of desire problems in marriage, sexual, emotional or otherwise, have to do with a reflected sense of self rather than a true sense of self. IOW, a lack of sexual desire from ones spouse may have one feeling undesired when in actuality that says more about the one not desiring than the one not desired. If you need to be ...
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One more point regarding integrity that I want to make.
If she's going to require him to meet her arbitrary standard for something to earn
''adult time'' then both he and she will be disappointed once that ''adult
time'' happens. He because he's paying for the ''adult time'' and won't
feel loved or desired by his wife, which is what we ...
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hoplon:I asked because I don't remember seeing anything in Sanderson's post which would indicate an integrity deficit.So you don't see his wife blaming his behavior for her lack of desire as an integrity issue? It seems to me that she is responsible for the way that she chooses to feel and that there is probably little he could do to improve
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hoplon:What is your definition of ''Integrity Issue''?Having the integrity to face the normal issues found in every marriage.
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You cannot earn sex with your spouse, nor should you have to. A lack of sexual intimacy in marriage is an integrity issue.
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I found that learning to stand with Christ and becoming more desirable and appearing less needy helps as well.KW
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Fact: In every marriage there is a high drive (HD) and a low drive (LD) spouse.Fact: In every marriage the LD spouse controls the sex whether they want to or not.KW
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Masturbation in and of itself is not sin. There are things that are almost always associated with masturbation that are sin, porn, lust, sinful fantasies, etc. The thing is that you're going to be less resistant to some of those things w/o physical release.IF you have the self-control to avoid the sinful behavior there is no reason why ...
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If your wife is an honorable and trustworthy woman and has good boundaries then I don't see a problem with it personally.
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chaz345:In short is amounts to pretty much anything that both partners enjoy and agree to is OK.I'd phrase it a little differently.Any non-sinful thing that both partners enjoy and agree to is OK.
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Hello Holten & Chaz. I see you two are still around...KW
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I'm done with this. I explained why I think two mature Christians can come to different conclusion on this. I don't consider anyone less of anything for voting their conscience. In fact I applaud all who did. Regardless for whomever they voted.Blessings!KW
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123:
Abortion? Yes, Commandment 6: ''You shall not murder.''
Great. Guns fit right there as well.
Abortion is murder of innocent people. Gun ownership is not.I agree. Handguns however are used in crime and murder and statistics prove that fewer guns mean fewer lost lives (No I'm ...
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat:
Me too!
Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
What makes you think I am judging you?I'm just quoteing the Apostle Paul? Why'd you ask that question?
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat:
StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: PearsandGrapes:
Ky Wildcat:I'm not worried that you're looking for inconsistencies. I'm not concerned. If you think I'm inconsistent that doesn't upset me because I don't feel I have been
I think KY's words here sum up how pro-lifers should take his views about ...
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123:
Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123:Here is what someone I deeply respect said a while ago: ''Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These ...
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: PearsandGrapes:
Ky Wildcat:I'm not worried that you're looking for inconsistencies. I'm not concerned. If you think I'm inconsistent that doesn't upset me because I don't feel I have been
I think KY's words here sum up how pro-lifers should take his views about the inconsistencies he sees
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123:
Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123:Here is what someone I deeply respect said a while ago: ''Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, ...
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PearsandGrapes: Ky Wildcat:I'm not worried that you're looking for inconsistencies. I'm not concerned. If you think I'm inconsistent that doesn't upset me because I don't feel I have been
I think KY's words here sum up how pro-lifers should take his views about the inconsistencies he sees in the right to lifers ...
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StillHopeful123: Ky Wildcat: StillHopeful123:Here is what someone I deeply respect said a while ago: ''Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are ...
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JaneFW:So it's okay to be inconsistent? I will bear that in mind for future subjects ....I'm not worried that you're looking for inconsistencies. I'm not concerned. If you think I'm inconsistent that doesn't upset me because I don't feel I have been but I understand that you are free to see it differently. JaneFW:Can you just ...
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bucky10600713:do you even HAVE an opinion on abortion? if so, what is it?Like Holten I do not debate abortion so I don't think that this question matters. However, I will point you to this.KW
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JaneFW: Ky Wildcat: lastblast: Ky Wildcat:
Frankly I don't see many true pro-life Christians. Most of what I see are anti-abortion Christians.
That's a sad statement concerning the ''Christians'' you know.I was talking about the Christians here.Right here ....Based on what little I've participated in here I'd say that there are a ...
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StillHopeful123:Here is what someone I deeply respect said a while ago: ''Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead.''Here we go again. If ...
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JaneFW: Ky Wildcat: divorce in church:Being pro-DEATH penalty, being pro war, being anti children's health care, being anti prenatal care, etc.These aren't ''life'' positions IMO.Im not sure anyone is PRO war...thats disingenuous. No one is actually PRO war...WANTING war. To say that the opposite of pacifist is PRO war id fallacious in the ...
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divorce in church: Ky Wildcat:DiC,I'm not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out what *I* see as inconsistencies. You can choose to ignore them if you like but I prefer not to.KWOkay, but are they important? I mean, do they change the answer on EITHER issue? Thats what I dont get. Further, so, are you claiming that these ...
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divorce in church:Being pro-DEATH penalty, being pro war, being anti children's health care, being anti prenatal care, etc.These aren't ''life'' positions IMO.Im not sure anyone is PRO war...thats disingenuous. No one is actually PRO war...WANTING war. To say that the opposite of pacifist is PRO war id fallacious in the extremeNO ONE is anti ...
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DiC,I'm not hiding behind anything. I'm just pointing out what *I* see as inconsistencies. You can choose to ignore them if you like but I prefer not to.KW
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divorce in church:Being pro-DEATH penalty, being pro war, being anti children's health care, being anti prenatal care, etc.These aren't ''life'' positions IMO.Im not sure anyone is PRO war...thats disingenuous. No one is actually PRO war...WANTING war. To say that the opposite of pacifist is PRO war id fallacious in the extremeNO ONE is anti ...
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat: TD&H: Ky Wildcat: TD&H: Ky Wildcat:IMO, you can be anti-abortion, pro-death penalty and that's not a pro-life postion so you aren't pro-life.
I realize that's just MY opinion but I think it is at least a consistent one.
KW
Pro life is ok with the death penalty...we are saving other inocent lives by putting to ...
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pooh girl: bestofky: bestofky:Excuse me for ''answering'' for Pooh...but no, I do NOT think God is ''against'' Obama (not yet, anyway)...but I DO THINK that Obama is AGAINST God....
....or, at the very least, Obama seems to be against the teachings of God's Son....and of the Christian foundations of our Country. Bestofky, ...
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat: TD&H: Ky Wildcat:IMO, you can be anti-abortion, pro-death penalty and that's not a pro-life postion so you aren't pro-life.
I realize that's just MY opinion but I think it is at least a consistent one.
KW
Pro life is ok with the death penalty...we are saving other inocent lives by putting to death ...
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat:IMO, you can be anti-abortion, pro-death penalty and that's not a pro-life postion so you aren't pro-life.
I realize that's just MY opinion but I think it is at least a consistent one.
KW
Pro life is ok with the death penalty...we are saving other inocent lives by putting to death guilty killers.
What gets to ...
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chaz345: Ky Wildcat: chaz345: Ky Wildcat:Frankly I don't see many true pro-life Christians. Most of what I see are anti-abortion Christians.In my opinion the above statement is no different that if someone said ''Frankly I don't see many true pro-choice people,most of what I see is pro-abortion people. If not doing other things to support ...
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lastblast: bestofky: Ky Wildcat: lastblast: Ky Wildcat:
Frankly I don't see many true pro-life Christians. Most of what I see are anti-abortion Christians.
That's a sad statement concerning the ''Christians'' you know.
I was talking about the Christians here.
I have always thought that ''Anti-Abortion'' WAS/IS ''Pro-Life'' and ...
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divorce in church: Ky Wildcat: TD&H: Ky Wildcat:Why assume it's a ''bad thing'' that has happened?
Did I assume that? Like DIC said in his last post...God may use this to bring about an a good thing.I was replying to DiC as he seems to assume that it's a ''bad'' thing that God may use for good. I wonder why start out thinking ...
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lastblast: Ky Wildcat:
Frankly I don't see many true pro-life Christians. Most of what I see are anti-abortion Christians.
That's a sad statement concerning the ''Christians'' you know.I was talking about the Christians here.
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat:Why assume it's a ''bad thing'' that has happened?
Did I assume that? Like DIC said in his last post...God may use this to bring about an a good thing.I was replying to DiC as he seems to assume that it's a ''bad'' thing that God may use for good. I wonder why start out thinking it's ''bad'' just b/c the guy you ...
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Why assume it's a ''bad thing'' that has happened?
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat:I have a question, is it God's will that Obama is President or is it the will of disobedient American people?
God new this would happen before He created the World...pretty amazing huh?Then it didn't matter who anyone voted for!!! ;-)
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The old saying is true. Politics sure does make strange bedfellows. I wouldn't have believe that when the men/women issues were being discussed that some of us could agree on anything with those on the other side of those issues.Funny how when the issues change the sides change.Blessings!KW
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat:Well then it becomes voting for the ''less of two evils''. Not exactly the ''mature Christian'' position you suggested it to be.
Frankly, I find your suggestion completely subjective based on what is less and would suggest that two mature Christians could come to different conclusions on the matter.
Muture ...
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Holten: Ky Wildcat:Really? So does the other follow as well? That a mature Christian would not vote for McCain based on the Spirit of God/and the sword of the Spirit (the Bible) convicting them of his stance/belief on many issues that Jesus would not agree with? Or do you believe that Senator McCain's stance/belief on ...
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TD&H: Ky Wildcat: TD&H:A muture Christian...would not vote for Obama based on the Spirit of God/and the sword of the Spirit (the Bible) convicting them of his stance/belief on many issues that Jesus would not agree with. Really? So does the other follow as well? That a mature Christian would not vote for ...
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TD&H:A muture Christian...would not vote for Obama based on the Spirit of God/and the sword of the Spirit (the Bible) convicting them of his stance/belief on many issues that Jesus would not agree with. Really? So does the other follow as well? That a mature Christian would not vote for McCain based on the ...
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Hot Ice: Ky Wildcat: Hot Ice:KY Wildcat
You're welcome to provide an example of equal reproof, speaking the truth, but making sure that it's in God's love and nobody else's, for the purpose of moving God's purposes forward......
Speaking of truth, God's love and moving His purposes forward I'm not certain how that works in a thread that ...
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Hot Ice:KY Wildcat
You're welcome to provide an example of equal reproof, speaking the truth, but making sure that it's in God's love and nobody else's, for the purpose of moving God's purposes forward......Speaking of truth, God's love and moving His purposes forward I'm not certain how that works in a thread that suggests that anyone who voted ...
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pooh girl: Ky Wildcat: pooh girl:but the part of about national rejoicing and congratulations I would differ with him on.
Congratulate what exactly?
Cetainly can't rejoice over things that I beleive are against God?
This suggests that you couldn't have rejoiced or congratulated McCain either as his policies aren't completely ''for'' God ...
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boatmen: Ky Wildcat: boatmen:Judging whether someone is a Christians based on a political vote is simply insane folks. The Bible does |