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How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

Last post 12-08-2008, 2:37 PM by chaz345. 1126 replies.
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  •  12-08-2008, 11:27 AM 36252 in reply to 36248

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    my analysis in this thread is there's no point, side, or ending, but same cycle as usual in a circle. do you ever enjoy a ride on a merry-go-round? :p

     


    god's love


    in the presence of my enemies
  •  12-08-2008, 11:47 AM 36259 in reply to 36248

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    divorce in church:
    The gender reference I believe is one of actual assumed identity. The height thing is just childish invective.


    Not to mention the fact that I've basically backed off from that claim anyway. 
    Don't misunderstand, I'm not retracting it, in fact the longer this goes on the more convinced I am, I just see no point in pushing the point since it makes no difference. What does it really matter if there's more than one person who feels the need to post childish insults, and make overbroad generalizations, and constant assumptions/assignments of evil motivation?  It's just that, like I said before, the similarities of style and use of identical examples really seem too strong to be a coincidence.

    Chaz345
  •  12-08-2008, 12:14 PM 36265 in reply to 36259

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    Chaz, did the other person...Lynn, use movies and semi-classoc literary references?
    Because that is a unique enough tendency to nail someone on. Even a lawyer!


    Cool Im banned TOO.
    Enjoy it Holten and Company!
  •  12-08-2008, 12:23 PM 36268 in reply to 36265

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    divorce in church:
    Chaz, did the other person...Lynn, use movies and semi-classoc literary references?
    Because that is a unique enough tendency to nail someone on. Even a lawyer!



    All the time. Same ones that this person has used even.

    Chaz345
  •  12-08-2008, 12:43 PM 36272 in reply to 36245

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    TD&H:

    Chaz,

    You have clearly won this debate with Tub...now the best thing to do is not respond to her any longer. 

    It would be just fine if neither of you did, as both of you have shown an unwillingness to act appropriately.  If you think I am insulted by your misstating my gender, you are mistaken.  All I see in that is the pathetic nature of your responses. 



    So why do you think I'm insulted by your references to my height? If what we do is pathetic, that ins't you doing something almost identical in nature equally pathetic?


    MAYBE.  I'm just playing the game the way you do. 



    May I ask why, if as you claim you've not had previous interactions with me under a different screen name, that you started "playing the game" first?

    Are you familiar with the phrase "When in Rome..."?

  •  12-08-2008, 12:45 PM 36273 in reply to 36248

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    divorce in church:
    The gender reference I believe is one of actual assumed identity. The height thing is just childish invective.

    You know what they say when you "assume" things...

  •  12-08-2008, 12:46 PM 36274 in reply to 36259

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    chaz345:
    divorce in church:
    The gender reference I believe is one of actual assumed identity. The height thing is just childish invective.


    Not to mention the fact that I've basically backed off from that claim anyway. 
    Don't misunderstand, I'm not retracting it, in fact the longer this goes on the more convinced I am, I just see no point in pushing the point since it makes no difference. What does it really matter if there's more than one person who feels the need to post childish insults, and make overbroad generalizations, and constant assumptions/assignments of evil motivation?  It's just that, like I said before, the similarities of style and use of identical examples really seem too strong to be a coincidence.

    What, you didn't think all liberals think alike?  We read the same books, go to the same movies....

  •  12-08-2008, 12:48 PM 36275 in reply to 36265

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    divorce in church:
    Chaz, did the other person...Lynn, use movies and semi-classoc literary references?
    Because that is a unique enough tendency to nail someone on. Even a lawyer!

    That's what a liberal education gets you.  With that and $3.95 you can get a latte at Starbucks.

  •  12-08-2008, 12:53 PM 36277 in reply to 36275

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    Tubalcain:

    divorce in church:
    Chaz, did the other person...Lynn, use movies and semi-classoc literary references?
    Because that is a unique enough tendency to nail someone on. Even a lawyer!

    That's what a liberal education gets you.  With that and $3.95 you can get a latte at Starbucks.



    My conservative education told me that "liberal education" is an oxymoron!  Ha

    Cool Im banned TOO.
    Enjoy it Holten and Company!
  •  12-08-2008, 1:09 PM 36283 in reply to 36272

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    TD&H:

    Chaz,

    You have clearly won this debate with Tub...now the best thing to do is not respond to her any longer. 

    It would be just fine if neither of you did, as both of you have shown an unwillingness to act appropriately.  If you think I am insulted by your misstating my gender, you are mistaken.  All I see in that is the pathetic nature of your responses. 



    So why do you think I'm insulted by your references to my height? If what we do is pathetic, that ins't you doing something almost identical in nature equally pathetic?


    MAYBE.  I'm just playing the game the way you do. 



    May I ask why, if as you claim you've not had previous interactions with me under a different screen name, that you started "playing the game" first?

    Are you familiar with the phrase "When in Rome..."?



    Yes but that would imply that the behavior in question was going on when you got here or that I was the one that engaged in it first.  Such is not the case. You came in making all sorts of statements as to what motivates people who disagree with you, basically assigning all sorts of bad intent.  I let it go for a while, hoping you were just having a bad day. When it became clear that it was you usual everyday behavior, I called you on it and you started in with all sorts of childish insults, basically amounting to nothing more that kindergarden level "did not" "did too".

    Your actions do not look like the ones of someone interested is actually discussing things with people of differing viewpoints. If that is a wrong suggestion then may I suggest(as I basically have before) that you keep the tangentially related slams about motive and the negative assumptions to yourself. Failing that your intended purpose here will become quite obvious.

    To summarize, you are engaging in behavior that irritates me, and others here, and I'm asking that you stop and stick to actual discussable points rather than stating fact as opinion and backing it up with negative assumptions about anyone who disagrees.  Surely someone as educated as you claim to be would have tired of just stirring up crap for the sake of doing it a long time ago.

    Chaz345
  •  12-08-2008, 1:13 PM 36285 in reply to 36274

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    Tubalcain:

    chaz345:
    divorce in church:
    The gender reference I believe is one of actual assumed identity. The height thing is just childish invective.


    Not to mention the fact that I've basically backed off from that claim anyway. 
    Don't misunderstand, I'm not retracting it, in fact the longer this goes on the more convinced I am, I just see no point in pushing the point since it makes no difference. What does it really matter if there's more than one person who feels the need to post childish insults, and make overbroad generalizations, and constant assumptions/assignments of evil motivation?  It's just that, like I said before, the similarities of style and use of identical examples really seem too strong to be a coincidence.

    What, you didn't think all liberals think alike?  We read the same books, go to the same movies....



    What have I ever said that gives you reason to believe that I think that all liberals think alike?  Oh I know, you think that because I tend to be conservative, and some conservatives think that way then I must also.

    Chaz345
  •  12-08-2008, 1:15 PM 36286 in reply to 36283

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    TD&H:

    Chaz,

    You have clearly won this debate with Tub...now the best thing to do is not respond to her any longer. 

    It would be just fine if neither of you did, as both of you have shown an unwillingness to act appropriately.  If you think I am insulted by your misstating my gender, you are mistaken.  All I see in that is the pathetic nature of your responses. 



    So why do you think I'm insulted by your references to my height? If what we do is pathetic, that ins't you doing something almost identical in nature equally pathetic?


    MAYBE.  I'm just playing the game the way you do. 



    May I ask why, if as you claim you've not had previous interactions with me under a different screen name, that you started "playing the game" first?

    Are you familiar with the phrase "When in Rome..."?



    Yes but that would imply that the behavior in question was going on when you got here or that I was the one that engaged in it first.  Such is not the case. You came in making all sorts of statements as to what motivates people who disagree with you, basically assigning all sorts of bad intent.  I let it go for a while, hoping you were just having a bad day. When it became clear that it was you usual everyday behavior, I called you on it and you started in with all sorts of childish insults, basically amounting to nothing more that kindergarden level "did not" "did too".

    Your actions do not look like the ones of someone interested is actually discussing things with people of differing viewpoints. If that is a wrong suggestion then may I suggest(as I basically have before) that you keep the tangentially related slams about motive and the negative assumptions to yourself. Failing that your intended purpose here will become quite obvious.

    To summarize, you are engaging in behavior that irritates me, and others here, and I'm asking that you stop and stick to actual discussable points rather than stating fact as opinion and backing it up with negative assumptions about anyone who disagrees.  Surely someone as educated as you claim to be would have tired of just stirring up crap for the sake of doing it a long time ago.


    typo fixes:

    "fact as opinion" should be "opinion as fact"

     "wrong suggestion" should be "wrong conclusion"

    Chaz345
  •  12-08-2008, 1:59 PM 36287 in reply to 36277

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    divorce in church:
    Tubalcain:

    divorce in church:
    Chaz, did the other person...Lynn, use movies and semi-classoc literary references?
    Because that is a unique enough tendency to nail someone on. Even a lawyer!

    That's what a liberal education gets you.  With that and $3.95 you can get a latte at Starbucks.



    My conservative education told me that "liberal education" is an oxymoron!  Ha

    That's the type of insult I was expecting from you.

  •  12-08-2008, 2:01 PM 36288 in reply to 36283

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:
    TD&H:

    Chaz,

    You have clearly won this debate with Tub...now the best thing to do is not respond to her any longer. 

    It would be just fine if neither of you did, as both of you have shown an unwillingness to act appropriately.  If you think I am insulted by your misstating my gender, you are mistaken.  All I see in that is the pathetic nature of your responses. 



    So why do you think I'm insulted by your references to my height? If what we do is pathetic, that ins't you doing something almost identical in nature equally pathetic?


    MAYBE.  I'm just playing the game the way you do. 



    May I ask why, if as you claim you've not had previous interactions with me under a different screen name, that you started "playing the game" first?

    Are you familiar with the phrase "When in Rome..."?



    Yes but that would imply that the behavior in question was going on when you got here or that I was the one that engaged in it first.  Such is not the case. You came in making all sorts of statements as to what motivates people who disagree with you, basically assigning all sorts of bad intent.  I let it go for a while, hoping you were just having a bad day. When it became clear that it was you usual everyday behavior, I called you on it and you started in with all sorts of childish insults, basically amounting to nothing more that kindergarden level "did not" "did too".

    Your actions do not look like the ones of someone interested is actually discussing things with people of differing viewpoints. If that is a wrong suggestion then may I suggest(as I basically have before) that you keep the tangentially related slams about motive and the negative assumptions to yourself. Failing that your intended purpose here will become quite obvious.

    To summarize, you are engaging in behavior that irritates me, and others here, and I'm asking that you stop and stick to actual discussable points rather than stating fact as opinion and backing it up with negative assumptions about anyone who disagrees.  Surely someone as educated as you claim to be would have tired of just stirring up crap for the sake of doing it a long time ago.

    I don't think so.  You just can't stand opposing views being stated.  I suggest you stop whining like a little bitty baby.  Your intended purpose is only to enforce political correctness and I am here to tell you you are failing there.

  •  12-08-2008, 2:03 PM 36289 in reply to 36285

    Re: How can a Christian cast a vote for a candidate whose stance on the most important moral issues is anti-God?

    chaz345:
    Tubalcain:

    chaz345:
    divorce in church:
    The gender reference I believe is one of actual assumed identity. The height thing is just childish invective.


    Not to mention the fact that I've basically backed off from that claim anyway. 
    Don't misunderstand, I'm not retracting it, in fact the longer this goes on the more convinced I am, I just see no point in pushing the point since it makes no difference. What does it really matter if there's more than one person who feels the need to post childish insults, and make overbroad generalizations, and constant assumptions/assignments of evil motivation?  It's just that, like I said before, the similarities of style and use of identical examples really seem too strong to be a coincidence.

    What, you didn't think all liberals think alike?  We read the same books, go to the same movies....



    What have I ever said that gives you reason to believe that I think that all liberals think alike?  Oh I know, you think that because I tend to be conservative, and some conservatives think that way then I must also.

    No, it was this stupid comparing me with some other person.  I don't thiuk I've ever compared you to anyone except Verne Troyer.

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