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Broken & In Need of Prayers

Last post 11-01-2009, 11:33 AM by Renae610. 106 replies.
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  •  07-30-2009, 6:53 AM 63054

    Broken & In Need of Prayers

    As some of you will remember, my husband and I have been separated for two and a half years. He has been living with the OW with whom he was committing adultery with. We reconcilled this past November and he left. He came home three weeks ago (I do not want to mention my husband's name for privacy reasons) and now he is in the midst of a crisis.

    My husband was diagnosed with manic depression (bi-polar disorder) over a year ago. His first accurate diagnosis. Years ago we sought treatment for what the doctor stated was depression. He went to therapy, would take medication and then would feel better and stop. After this last diagnosis, he started treatment and later stopped. Starting a new cycle once again. He thought he could overcome it on his own, but he could not.

    He came home three weeks ago on a downward spiral. Wanting to isolate himself from everyone. The past week has been the worse. I daily encouraged him to seek help. To which he said he was but did not want me or anyone else to be a part of. His sleep patterns were off. No sleep at night, slept most of the day. It was difficult to get him up and get him to eat. I advised my therapist of this. I said I need to do an intervention with him. She said that if he did not get up and was able to get to work today, then I would have to intervene. I called his sister. I explained it to her. I told her this needed to be the whole family. I told her if he did not agree, that other measures would have to be taken.

    Yesterday at lunch, I came home to bring him lunch. I managed to get him up and to eat. After work, when I came home yesterday, he did not look well. He kept telling me that he was in trouble (used another word). I said that I was there to help and that he was not alone. He said he would have to go away (meaning hospital). I told him that was okay. That going to the hospital meant that he was going to get help. He went from being sad/scarred/tears to being angry and verbally abusive. He said he did not want me near him, that I would not be the one to take him to the hospital. I told him that his well being was my priorty. That he simply needed help.

    He called the OW to come pick him up and take him to the hospital. I got on the phone with her and advised her that my only concern was for his well being and safety. I would put aside all other issues for his sake, I adivsed that I wanted to come along and be informed. My husband did not want me to go along and wanted me not to be involved at all. Especially if decisions needed to be made, I being his wife could legally make some decisions. She then advised that I was no longer his next of kin. I hung up and spoke to his sister and asked her to mediate the situation.

    I allowed the OW into my home, I humbly asked that I be kept informed. He was hesitant to leave. He told me how sorry he was for doing this to me. I assured him that what mattered most was him receiving the help he needed. She went into our room to help him put on his shirt.

    I cannot not begin to describe how broken and humiliated I felt. I have been by my husband's side for 21 years and now had to step outside and let this OW assist him in our home and drive him to the hospital. I would do it over again, because what matters most was him getting help. He was admitted at 1:30 a.m. I am worried sick about him. I have no information. He will not have any visitors, but I do not know for how long.

    Before he left he hugged me and told me he was scarred. I wonder how he spent the night, have they started him on medication, what course of treatment will they implement, how long do they recommend he stay....

    I feel like I failed my husband. I was not agressive enough with him on his keeping up with treatment. I know that he has not being living with me for a very long time, I sit here and wonder what else could I have done. I know that it is up to him to stay on treatment, but I feel like this is all my fault.

    His family feels he deteriorates when he is with me. Not a fair  statment. When he came home three weeks ago he was already in a bout of depression. He told me he feels safe when he is home. He even told his sister. He is struggling and my hearts aches and breaks for him. I just want to see him start his recovery where he starts to feel better and becomes healthier.

    Right now, I'm struggling. I do blame myself in part for his condition. I'm besides myself. I love my husband so very much. I'm worried sick. At the same time, I am hurt by his choosing the OW over me to take him to the hospital and listing her of his next kin. Sometimes, I feels he hates me and clearly he does not trust me right now. I realize that this could very well be part of his disorder and that he is not capable of making sound decisions. But it does not take the hurt away.

    Please pray that God brings complete healing to my husband. That God would be the lighting guide with all the physicians that are treating him. That my husband is able to feel God's love, serenity and peace. I pray that he does not feel alone. I pray that God's penetrating light will lift him up out of this darkness.

    Please pray for me and our children as well.

     

     

     

  •  07-30-2009, 7:16 AM 63058 in reply to 63054

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    Sister, I'm going to be a bit blunt with you.  Please understand I am doing this because I'm concerned for both of you.  I don't know your whole history so I'm only going to comment on your one thread here. Here are my points.

    1.  You are being used.  You are being manipulated.

    2.  He wants to have his cake and eat it too, in spite of his medical condition .... which I don't see as an excuse for his type of abusive behaviors and adultery. He has free will and freedom of choice to CHOOSE to get treatment.

    3.  Why in the world are you associating with this OW?  Why are you exposing your children to the OW?

    4.  You need to insist that she be removed TOTALLY from your marriage with absolutely no contact with your husband.

    5.  You do need to instigate this intervention, and quickly.

    6.  If you are in church, then immediately request the church leadership to counsel hubby and draw a line in the sand with him.  If he refuses to cooperate, do the Matt. 18 process.

    7.  Have yourself tested for STD's and AIDS.  Do not welcome him back into your marriage bed until he breaks ALL contact with the OW and has these tests himself.

    8.  Treat him like a man and not your little boy.  You're his wife, not his mother.

    9.  Quit enabling him.

  •  07-30-2009, 7:21 AM 63059 in reply to 63054

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    My husband just called me. God I am so thankful for that. He said that he want to call me. He said he is not happy there but he knows he needs to be there.

    Jesus, thank you for this blessed gift of a call. You answered on of my prayers. God to just be able to hear his voice. There are no words.

  •  07-30-2009, 7:29 AM 63060 in reply to 63058

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    We have have never spoken and I always take into consideration what is being said as I pray over it.

    Am I being used, I probably am.

    Has my hudband been living in two worlds, yes he has.

    In the two and half years he has been gone, I have not associated with this woman and neither have our children. They do not know he is living with her. All his visitation has been done in our home due various reasons.

    I have insisted that this woman be completely removed. But at this time, in his crises, he can choose who he wants there. I move to become his guardian legally, but that would be a long road. He could give me power of attorney over him during this time, but that did not happen.

    He has been admitted to the hospital and will be staying for however long his doctor suggests. And thereafter continue therpay/medication.

    I am not treating him like a child. He was in need of medical help and he got. At that particular time, that was my only concern. He was not doing well at all to which they admitted him.

    In the past, I have enabled him. To which I have been seeing a therapist and no longer do so, although at times, I myself have relapsed and quickly bounced back from it.

    I thank you for taking the time to respond. It is a blessing.

  •  07-30-2009, 7:33 AM 63062 in reply to 63059

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    Faithy I need to ask.....is there more than the bipolar going on? Is he addicted to something....hydrocodone, xanax, something else? Im no doctor and maybe I missed this in the past, but whats the physical reason he is admitted to hospital? Im concerned and curious.

    Though tough advice above, I agree with generally, I also know now is not the time for it. It seems to me that man is broken beyond belief and he needs someone to be Jesus to him, and you sister are doing so. Bless you and your heart and your efforts.

    I believe one day your testimony will be so overwhelmingly powerful, and it already is...but comes a day when wow. I encourage you to see this through to his healing NOT at the expense of your own health or your kids wellbeing, but I'm in support of what you are doing at this 5 minutes, for what its worth, and these comments are totally independent of marriage/divorce/all that, this is a man needing help from a Christian and you may be the only light in his life. I dont know.

    Everytime I read your perseverence Im totaly in awe of it.


    Cool Im banned TOO.
    Enjoy it Holten and Company!
  •  07-30-2009, 8:04 AM 63071 in reply to 63062

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    Thank DIC. Your words just brought me to tears. He is not addicted to other medications/drugs. He does however drink in effort to self medicate that way. In an effort to be able to sleep. Which we know has the adverse affect, Especially with his condition.

    He was admitted because he cannot control himself right now. He felt hopeless. Racing thoughts (not good thoughts). I feel he felt like he could not survive one more day like this. I'm sure, that at the hospital he was much more detailed with what he was feeling and thinking. Clearly enough to concern the doctor and admit him.

    I have to say, the ONLY REASON, I withstand anything and everything is because of GOD'S GRACE! At times, I feel like a total failiure. Like I'm not good enough and nothing I do is good enough. I battle this thoughts with God's truth. But it is not easy. I question myself. Am I honest and sincere? Am I genuine? Am I deceiving myself?  Am I in denial? Does God want me here? Does He want me to stand for my marriage? Do I keep God first in my life? Am I learning and growing from this trial? Am I honoring God? Sometimes, I just feel like a blank page, numb, just existing. I question myself, my thoughts, my actions?

    Have I been a godly daughter onto God? Am I godly wife? Am I godly mother? I want so much to be in God's will and not greive God's heart. I just feel like ti disaapoint God. Am I acquiring the wisdom that God gives generously when asked? I making godly decisions?

    This is so difficult. So very hard.

  •  07-30-2009, 10:28 AM 63090 in reply to 63071

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    I'm having a very difficult time right now. I really would appreciate your prayers. There is so much going on. I know that with God's help I can and will do all things through Him.

    Your prayers would be a blessing.

     

  •  07-30-2009, 11:00 AM 63092 in reply to 63090

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    Praying!!!  Keep your head up, sister!
  •  07-30-2009, 11:09 AM 63093 in reply to 63092

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    Thank you Calvin. I cannot express how very much it means to me to have my brothers and sisters in Christ come alongside and pray for us.
  •  07-30-2009, 11:32 AM 63095 in reply to 63060

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    FAITHEY:

    In the two and half years he has been gone, I have not associated with this woman and neither have our children. They do not know he is living with her. All his visitation has been done in our home due various reasons.


    I have prayed for you regularly over the past few years, since you first shared your plight on the old FL boards.  That said...

    If you think your kids don't know he's living with another woman you need to have your examined.  Kids are far more perceptive than you can imagine.  After all the crud these kids have been put through I shudder to think of the amount of baggage they'll carry into their relationships, the things they'll think it's okay to do to a woman in the name of "love".  For a couple years you've been given the "tough love" approach advice but resisted it, thinking you can love him back into your marriage and it's only spiraled downward (even by your own admission).  The guy has openly cheated on you, verbally & emotionally abused you and threatened to kill you in front of them.  What's it going to take for the momma bear to protect her cubs?  Normally I would measure my words more diplomatically but the thought of those tender children being savaged by all this makes me want sick to my stomach and smash something. 


    The artist formerly known as Remington
  •  07-30-2009, 11:38 AM 63097 in reply to 63095

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    Well .... at least now I know I'm not the only one ..... nice to see someone else sees this for what it is.
  •  07-30-2009, 11:56 AM 63103 in reply to 63090

    Re: Broken & In Need of Prayers

    Faithy, the Spirit of the Lord has been alerting me in the last few days to intercede in prayer for you and your situation and now I see why!!!   (((hugs!)))  God will get you through this as you wisely get information and consider the options of what can and must be done under these circumstances. Keep taking the next step God places in front of you.

    You took appropriate emergency action in an emergency situation.  So many Christians do not understand these serious health conditions that affect body chemistry and put patients out of control to some extent behaviorally. You had to act quickly! 

    Sister, I understand some about the path you are on because of my abusive ex-husband, my 10 yrs severe chronically ill daughter (affects her brain, etc),  I know bipolar people and I read and heard new research about some causes of bipolar.
    The current medical method is psychiatric hospital/drugs. Well, he has to be there for now and hopefully that will stabilize him until sometime in the future when he can learn the true cause and cure it (instead of just symptom management). Your marriage problem might resolve if he got the right physical help. God led me to an alternative specialist-- the only doc who is able to improve her!! It is a miracle and I hope for such a miracle for your husband. I pray the Spirit of the Lord will calm him now and that he will find God's way to full health and abundant life and marriage! 

    In the meantime, stay close to Jesus, Faithey! 

    I am fully aware of the "codependence" movement. Read alot about it.  Dr. W. Harley of MarriageBuilders said that the misuse of that label has killed many marriages that could have recovered with better counsel.  Also, that is a tag that doesn't fit for the Christian who is being led by the Spirit of the Lord to intervene in an emergency medical situation.

    Praying for you, your husband, and family,
    ~Renae
  •  07-30-2009, 12:12 PM 63107 in reply to 63095

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    Hello Cast-n-Blast. I too recall you as well. I agree with you whole heartedly that kids are more perceptive than we can imagine. But you may recall, that all of the visitations have been in the home. Not outside the home. It was explained to them that daddy and I are separated. It was explained that daddy rents a home while we are separated. Can they suspect. Yes, of course. My youngest is 7 and my oldest just turned 10.

    I have never disclosed prior to today why the visits had been in such a manner. Does his disorder excuse his behavior (cheating, verbally and emotionally abisive)? No. Yet I cannot discount the fact that he is bipolar and while not receiving treatment (therapy/medication) he has been deteriorating mentally, spiritually, emotionally and even physically. My therapist advised me that he was heading towards rock bottom and in a crisis he would have to be admitted to the hospital. This is what happened. Bipolar is not to be taken lightly. The erractic behavior that ensues. The chaos in his mind began to mirror the chaos of his life.  The darkness began to weave itself into his mind to where he became hopelessly out of control. He could no longer follow the path of his own thoughts. He has been in denial of his disorder. But can no longer escape the reality of it.

    People with manic depression (bipolar) statistically have a high rate of infidelity. Does is excuse it no. Yet I have a choice. Do I turn my back and abandon him when he is in the middle of  a crisis. I choose not to do so. Do I sit back and enable him, no. The reality is that he needs long term treatment.  

    As for my beautiful children, there well being, spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically is of most importance to me and my priority.  I will have to tell them today, in terms they will understand that their daddy is not well and had to go to the doctor to receive help. And the doctor will let us know when they can see their daddy.

    I cannot live in denial and refuse to address reality. And within all of that, my faith endures. I believe whole heartedly that God can heal Him. Nothing is impossible for God. I have faith that my husband will be healed, but he will need to due the work that is required of him to ensure his recovery and maintain such recovery by following his medical treatment. People with bipolar can go on to live productive lives. It will be very diffcult for him. Be I believe that he can and will become well. He is a child of God, and God promised to never forsake him. God has plans to proper him, and not harm him. God is his redeemer and savior. I pray that God will restore him into the man He purposed him to be.

    Understand, I travel this road with pain and hardship. But it is a road I choose to travel. God loves us unconditionally and does not abandon us. But of His own accord he disciplines us and does not enable us. So I pray for continual wisdom in seeking to do God's will for my life, my marriage, my family. I have not interest in enabling my husband whatsoever.

    I can understand the frustration. Thank you for your honesty.

  •  07-30-2009, 12:16 PM 63108 in reply to 63107

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    Faithey, I must ask this.  In the event he stays in treatment and gets it under control physically .... how are you going to handle the other side of the equation .... that being his relationship with the OW?
  •  07-30-2009, 12:22 PM 63111 in reply to 63103

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    Thank you Renae. You have always been so incredibly kind. Its a blessing. I take no offense. I realize that you all do not have every detail of what occurs in our lives. I never claimed to be perfect or have all the answers. I fall shorty of God's glory. But it is my heart's desire to continually seek God will in my life. My husband is not well, right now the focus must shift to him getting stable and healthy. And in the proper context address all issues to bring a about a healthy resolution to the madness that ensued.

    I will take heed from his doctors and what they determine to be the best course of action at this time, while praying that God's righteous right hand is upon my husband and those ensuring his care at this time.

    I will continue to pray and seek God's wisdom. I'm clear that God would not want to enable my husband, but feel led not to abandon him.

    Listen, God bless you all. I truly am humbled by your responses and prayers for my family. It is such a blessing.

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